specifics that they wanted from the romney campaign this week with respect to jobs and an economic plan, healthcare and a lot of other domestic issues. now we switch to domestic and foreign policy. ryan is a numbers guy. how do you think he'll match up to vice president biden when it comes to the economy first, foreign policy second? >> i think it will be an even match. biden was in the senate 36 years so he has a very good understanding of federal issues as well. but paul ryan jokes about how he's been reading federal budgets since he was 22 years old. so they both have a very long backlog of data they can use. i think they'll be evenly match. >> what's your word of caution for each with 30 days to go? >> don't get overconfident for both sides. >> that's good. all right. erin, always great to talk to you. heating up, getting really close. we'll talk to you again. >> sounds good. >> you don't want to miss the first vice presidential debate. i'll be sitting in front of the tv. joe biden squaring off against paul ryan and this this is the e to tune in live. that happens on october 11, 9:00 p.m. tune